this is president obama late yesterday afternoon in the rose garden. first referring -- surrounded by some of the members of the -- family members from newtown connecticut and gabby giffords at his side. joe biden on the other side. >> home state, joe biden. >> bill: referring to the fact that some senators, including rand paul, criticized the newtown families for daring come to washington to let their points of view be heard. >> obama: do we really think thousands of families whose lives have been shattered by gun violence don't have a right to weigh in on this issue? do we think their emotions, their loss is not relevant to this debate? so all in all, this was a pretty shameful day for washington. >> bill: you could hear the anger in his voice. senator, you had dinner with the president last night. with a couple of other -- few other democratic senators at the jefferson hotel. what was his mood like? >> at the outset, it was a very somber dinner. he gave us an update on the investigations in boston. he gave us an update there had been an arrest in th